Wtf

[Corona Gigante]

This place is a joke!

To even let Manix (a racist pig) come back in here is fucking pathetic!

Don't worry, I won't be back either!

Jeez. I'm sorry Ken (cigarsarge) won't be around. He's obviously one of the good guys.

Lee, that's your first post in two months. Who do you think is going to miss you?

CC, I don't think anyone would miss your particular brand of intolerance if you stopped coming around here, which of course you won't. You couldn't stop yourself if you tried. Not that you want to contribute in a positive way any more. I haven't seen you take part in a box split, or the newbie trade thread, or a pass, or even offer a review or a piece of advice, not so much as a simple friendly word in weeks. You just use this place to vent your bile. It's pathetic, a guy your age so insecure that he can find nothing better to do with his time than heap abuse on people whose views aren't in complete accord with your own. I wouldn't mind so much your stuff was the least bit entertaining. I could forgive you being a bully, but I can't forgive you being such a bore.

Guys, if you really miss Scotty and Purobrat that much, pm me and I'll tell you where they're hanging out these days. Why not go harass them where they live? Oh, that's right, because you can't count on the crowd piling on on your side. More likely public opinion would go the other way and you know it. Like any bully, you're only really interested in a fight where you think the odds are in your favor.

[hex1848]

Not that you want to contribute in a positive way any more. I haven't seen you take part in a box split, or the newbie trade thread, or a pass, or even offer a review or a piece of advice, not so much as a simple friendly word in weeks.

Obviously you haven't been paying much attention. CC organized and hosted the Cigarsmokers.com lottery pass which I took part in and finished up this month.. It's a lot of work to put together something like that. At least research something your trying to call someone out on properly.

[Leebo]

Jeez. I'm sorry Ken (cigarsarge) won't be around. He's obviously one of the good guys.

Lee, that's your first post in two months. Who do you think is going to miss you?

CC, I don't think anyone would miss your particular brand of intolerance if you stopped coming around here, which of course you won't. You couldn't stop yourself if you tried. Not that you want to contribute in a positive way any more. I haven't seen you take part in a box split, or the newbie trade thread, or a pass, or even offer a review or a piece of advice, not so much as a simple friendly word in weeks. You just use this place to vent your bile. It's pathetic, a guy your age so insecure that he can find nothing better to do with his time than heap abuse on people whose views aren't in complete accord with your own. I wouldn't mind so much your stuff was the least bit entertaining. I could forgive you being a bully, but I can't forgive you being such a bore.

Guys, if you really miss Scotty and Purobrat that much, pm me and I'll tell you where they're hanging out these days. Why not go harass them where they live? Oh, that's right, because you can't count on the crowd piling on on your side. More likely public opinion would go the other way and you know it. Like any bully, you're only really interested in a fight where you think the odds are in your favor.

I could care less CG, and who are you anyway?

Hex, I run a board and while I didn't agree with the way you handled this idiot, it's your choice...I don't put up with it on mine...

[hex1848]

Hex, I run a board and while I didn't agree with the way you handled this idiot, it's your choice...I don't put up with it on mine...

Which is? (I want Manix to have someplace to go)

[Leebo]

Cigarsnobs, send the idiots on over....they'll be dealt with accordingly! We need a new bitch anyway...and it might just be Corona Gigante...

[hex1848]

This place is a joke!

Cigarsnobs, send the idiots on over....they'll be dealt with accordingly! We need a new bitch anyway...and it might just be Corona Gigante...

Fitting name

[CoventryCat86]

Jeez. I'm sorry Ken (cigarsarge) won't be around. He's obviously one of the good guys.

Lee, that's your first post in two months. Who do you think is going to miss you?

CC, I don't think anyone would miss your particular brand of intolerance if you stopped coming around here, which of course you won't. You couldn't stop yourself if you tried. Not that you want to contribute in a positive way any more. I haven't seen you take part in a box split, or the newbie trade thread, or a pass, or even offer a review or a piece of advice, not so much as a simple friendly word in weeks. You just use this place to vent your bile. It's pathetic, a guy your age so insecure that he can find nothing better to do with his time than heap abuse on people whose views aren't in complete accord with your own. I wouldn't mind so much your stuff was the least bit entertaining. I could forgive you being a bully, but I can't forgive you being such a bore.

Guys, if you really miss Scotty and Purobrat that much, pm me and I'll tell you where they're hanging out these days. Why not go harass them where they live? Oh, that's right, because you can't count on the crowd piling on on your side. More likely public opinion would go the other way and you know it. Like any bully, you're only really interested in a fight where you think the odds are in your favor.

Well CG you need to pull your head out of your ass. I ran a pass on this site before you got here, I started the newbie sampler trade thread here, I've offered up sampler packages for sale and have sold about six or seven of them to people here without gouging anyone. I've sent cigars as gifts to quite a few people on this board, including to you and you obviously haven't reviewed my threads where I've given reviews on cigars.

You're outright lying when you say you haven't seen me

even offer a review or a piece of advice

go back and look at all of my posts because they'll prove you're lying.

Scotty and PuroBrat came here AFTER I did and they came here only to cause trouble.

AS far as your smart assed comment towards Lee:

Who do you think is going to miss you?

Here's a short list of people who would miss him a great deal if he were to permanently leave this site:
Me
ggiese
Hugh Jorgan
SamClemmons
cigarsarge
BkCloud114
KayakinBoy
MrJerry
Grand Cru No 2
Kevin7
bigpoppapuff
BigMacFU
moheganson
biblion
Drake
Diesel Grinch
nhcigarfan
alexgtp


Pretty much all the active posters by my estimation therefore your uninformed smart assed comment just made you look like the ignorant fool that you are.

Corona Gigante, you're another 60 day wonder who's completely out of line who does not think before he posts, you'd be wise to do that before you post shit like this in the future.

[nhcigarfan]

Corona Gigante - The box pass cc put together couldn't have been easy or cheap. Also to let me join late, and relatively new to the board, says a lot about his character. He may be particular about certain things but it doesn't make him pathetic or a bully.

And just because you haven't "seen" him take part in box splits, a pass (search "box pass") or a newbie thread (search "newbie sampler thread") Doesn't mean he hasn't done it, it just means you haven't been paying attention.


As for the box split, it was with me. Done by PM's, so don't waste your time searching. The reason why? Because he let me in on the box pass. Plain and simple. I was here for maybe a month, maybe. He still took the chance. He moved me in just before the box returned to him. For all he knew I could have left with the box. But he took the chance and I thank him for it.


Do I agree with everything he says? No. Would he expect me too? I doubt it. Am I going to give him shit for it, or anyone else for that matter, No.

I read Manix's post, it was sickening. See my response. That is about as hot as I will get on a forum.

As for calling someone pathetic, a bully, insecure, a bore.

You really should have done a little research to backup your position. It has been proven unfounded and lacks credibility.

That being said, how should the rest of your post be perceived?

[prophetic_joe]

CC, I don't think anyone would miss your particular brand of intolerance if you stopped coming around here, which of course you won't. You couldn't stop yourself if you tried. Not that you want to contribute in a positive way any more. I haven't seen you take part in a box split, or the newbie trade thread, or a pass, or even offer a review or a piece of advice, not so much as a simple friendly word in weeks. You just use this place to vent your bile. It's pathetic, a guy your age so insecure that he can find nothing better to do with his time than heap abuse on people whose views aren't in complete accord with your own. I wouldn't mind so much your stuff was the least bit entertaining. I could forgive you being a bully, but I can't forgive you being such a bore.

huh?

now i'll admit the guy sometimes puts out an asshole vibe and is a bit intimidating to newbies like myself but the man contributes a lot. sure he's a bit rough but to say he hasn't contributed anything positive is completely false.

[CoventryCat86]

Thanks prophetic_joe and nhcigarfan.

Come to think of it CG, I've done more box splits than you can imagine. You've been drinking way too much of Scroto's Kool Aid because he is under the false impression that he's "FLAWLESS" because he did a couple of box splits and made sure every one knew about with his typical "LOOK AT ME" shit.

nhcigarfan and I split a box which he mentioned and I'm only talking about it now because he brought it up. Quite frankly, it's really none of your goddam business who I do box splits with, or who I help purchase cigars for. I'm not a "look at me" type personality when it comes to bragging about my accomplishments or how I help people particularly new guys like you CG, I enjoy doing it but I don't feel the need to publish it in order to impress assholes like you.

Now that you mention it, I've traded some Fuente Untold Storys and some Añejo 48s with another member of this board. Just two days ago, I sent stjohnroe an Opus X Super Belicoso because he posted that he'd love to try one. If you'd like me to continue, I will but hopefully this is enough for you to get the picture.

Goddammit you're stupid CG, I'm extremely disappointed in you. I've even gone to bat for you with others who've asked me about you, I told them "Yeah, he's a good guy! " LMFAO, not anymore pal, my answer to the next person that asks about you will be "He's pretty much a complete asshole...."

[TheSilentChamber]

CC's usually an asshole to me, but from what I'v seen he brings alot to the table.

[ggiese]

Jeez. I'm sorry Ken (cigarsarge) won't be around. He's obviously one of the good guys.

Lee, that's your first post in two months. Who do you think is going to miss you?

CC, I don't think anyone would miss your particular brand of intolerance if you stopped coming around here, which of course you won't. You couldn't stop yourself if you tried. Not that you want to contribute in a positive way any more. I haven't seen you take part in a box split, or the newbie trade thread, or a pass, or even offer a review or a piece of advice, not so much as a simple friendly word in weeks. You just use this place to vent your bile. It's pathetic, a guy your age so insecure that he can find nothing better to do with his time than heap abuse on people whose views aren't in complete accord with your own. I wouldn't mind so much your stuff was the least bit entertaining. I could forgive you being a bully, but I can't forgive you being such a bore.

Guys, if you really miss Scotty and Purobrat that much, pm me and I'll tell you where they're hanging out these days. Why not go harass them where they live? Oh, that's right, because you can't count on the crowd piling on on your side. More likely public opinion would go the other way and you know it. Like any bully, you're only really interested in a fight where you think the odds are in your favor.

Nicholas - this is bad - REAL BAD...

There are things that CC does that I don't agree with - but a vast majority of the time this guy freely imparts his knowledge of cigars, he offers his hospitality freely, and he is very much a stand up guy. To make your statements based upon the very short time you've known CC is extremely ignorant,,,

I thought I knew more about you than I obviously did. I guess I'm ignorant as well. However, the difference between you and I is that I had no where to see what kind of person you were online other than here. You can research CC's history at any number of boards and see what he's about...

I'm disappointed - VERY disappointed... And I KNOW without asking that I'm not the only one...

[hex1848]

Cigarsmokers.com is a member moderated community. We did not have a policy in place stating that making racist comments would get you banned and I don’t like enforcing policy’s retroactively, it seems way too fascist. I don’t like banning people at all, but it’s clear the community simply does not want to be associated with individuals who make racist statements.

I’ve read statements indicating that I didn’t act fast or decisively enough. You know what? Managing a bunch of pseudo anonymous members of an internet community isn’t an easy task. You are never going to please everyone and someone is always gong to end up whining like a little school girl.

I have decided to ban Manix permanently unless the community gets a public apology and the community accepts.

Manix you obviously can not post. If you want back in, then email me: miguelg[at]gmail[dot]com and I will post the apology to the community in a poll.

[basil]

Cigarsmokers.com is a member moderated community. We did not have a policy in place stating that making racist comments would get you banned and I don’t like enforcing policy’s retroactively, it seems way too fascist. I don’t like banning people at all, but it’s clear the community simply does not want to be associated with individuals who make racist statements.

I’ve read statements indicating that I didn’t act fast or decisively enough. You know what? Managing a bunch of pseudo anonymous members of an internet community isn’t an easy task. You are never going to please everyone and someone is always gong to end up whining like a little school girl.

I have decided to ban Manix permanently unless the community gets a public apology and the community accepts.

Manix you obviously can not post. If you want back in, then email me: miguelg[at]gmail[dot]com and I will post the apology to the community in a poll.

Not good enough. Hex while I appreciate your efforts toward fairness, the fair thing here is to close the door on this loser. Not under threat of people bailing, but because that's the obvious vote of this board. Retro nothing. Would you let someone who proudly justifies pedophilia or beating his wife continue to use your board just because there were no rules addressing such behavior before they were outed? An apology for bigotry that he claims to be proud of? Doesn't wash. And, he's just the type that'll say the words "I'm sorry" and go back to howdy doody, glad handing, board-humping bullshit. And you'll still have the same asshole - so full of bile that he uses sarcasm to demean his own mother's heritage. Hitler had the same problem wiht his Jewish heritage. As I said, the guy's got too much history to make it right on this board and maybe this lifetime; e.g., the multiple lies he spewed on the PIF thread. If he's willing to lie there and proudly claim bigotry here, he'll damn sure fabricate an apology for us. Fuck 'im. You can publish his apology. I'll gladly piss all over it.

I vote permanent ban. No brainer.

[prophetic_joe]

Not good enough. Hex while I appreciate your efforts toward fairness, the fair thing here is to close the door on this loser. Not under threat of people bailing, but because that's the obvious vote of this board. Retro nothing. Would you let someone who proudly justifies pedophilia or beating his wife continue to use your board just because there were no rules addressing such behavior before they were outed? An apology for bigotry that he claims to be proud of? Doesn't wash. And, he's just the type that'll say the words "I'm sorry" and go back to howdy doody, glad handing, board-humping bullshit. And you'll still have the same asshole - so full of bile that he uses sarcasm to demean his own mother's heritage. Hitler had the same problem wiht his Jewish heritage. As I said, the guy's got too much history to make it right on this board and maybe this lifetime; e.g., the multiple lies he spewed on the PIF thread. If he's willing to lie there and proudly claim bigotry here, he'll damn sure fabricate an apology for us. Fuck 'im. You can publish his apology. I'll gladly piss all over it.

I vote permanent ban. No brainer.

pretty sure this whole thing has stressed hex out a bit and no one ever wants to have to ban members. i say the guy has done enough and if you don't think so and tcmm happens to lie his way back in, the members will make it a pretty unhappy place for him. not to mention every has an option in their user cp to ignore a particular member. how great is the net.

[Roham]

Hex, in my opinion you have handled this situation 100% perfectly! I couldn't of done it better myself. I would just stick to your guns and don't let all these people get to you. This is a great board and I enjoy checking in here nightly. If people leave, let them leave. Like you said, you can't make everyone happy. Impossible. I was here during all the talk of banning members and how shunned on it was.



You handled the situation perfectly!!!

[Bkcloud114]

This has to be the stupidest shit I have heard in a while......... TCMM has been banned.... GOOD...... F*ck him...... and anybody who wants to shake his hand should go with him

And comes the day I meet someone with as much hate as I have, I want to shake your hand manix.

TheSilentChamber...... this was your post and there is no other way to interpret what you said...... the comments you made were just as racist as TCMM.


CoronaGigante.......... holy crap !!!

[Baron Porthos]

Cigarsmokers.com is a member moderated community. We did not have a policy in place stating that making racist comments would get you banned and I don’t like enforcing policy’s retroactively, it seems way too fascist. I don’t like banning people at all, but it’s clear the community simply does not want to be associated with individuals who make racist statements.

I’ve read statements indicating that I didn’t act fast or decisively enough. You know what? Managing a bunch of pseudo anonymous members of an internet community isn’t an easy task. You are never going to please everyone and someone is always gong to end up whining like a little school girl.

I have decided to ban Manix permanently unless the community gets a public apology and the community accepts.

Manix you obviously can not post. If you want back in, then email me: miguelg[at]gmail[dot]com and I will post the apology to the community in a poll.

I know it sucks making retroactive decisions but I for one think you did the right thing. That does not happen enough these days.
Thank You

[grand cru no 2]

George, Bill, Tommy, we've got to step it up! We've been slacking, we ain't been guarding the door. Been letting just anybody come in here and we have to put a stop to it! I'm taking my humi and recliner to the foyer. I'm bringing my shotgun as well.

It's back to the hazing days for me. Gotta start checking them out again. Giving 'em some hell as soon as they come through the door. And if they get out of shape, I'm gonna give 'em a chest full of birdshot (sense it's illegal for me to hit 'em with buckshot, ).

[ggiese]

George, Bill, Tommy, we've got to step it up! We've been slacking, we ain't been guarding the door. Been letting just anybody come in here and we have to put a stop to it! I'm taking my humi and recliner to the foyer. I'm bringing my shotgun as well.

It's back to the hazing days for me. Gotta start checking them out again. Giving 'em some hell as soon as they come through the door. And if they get out of shape, I'm gonna give 'em a chest full of birdshot (sense it's illegal for me to hit 'em with buckshot, ).

Hey - SilentChamber - Ray says to step it up!!! I support that position!!! And you have one of two possible choices as I see it - STFU (as I've already suggested) or bear the brunt of the beat down that's coming. Under normal circumstances I don't like to match wits with someone who is unarmed, but in your case I'm willing to make an exception...